I would like to once again ask for your help and input. This goes out primarily to those who live in the former CSA...
What is it like? Really?
What is it like what is is like to have met, been defeated by, and then to have been razed by a relentless, materially superior enemy that is interested only in obtaining the submission of its foes?
What is it like to be "part of the good 'ole US of A, when you know that the "U" was obtained only after your kinsmen and ancestors were murdered to make it so? After the US government applied "scorched earth" to your lands in a manner that would've made any despoiler throughout history proud?
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What is it like to be demonized and villified in the way that you have been by the US government?
I cannot imagine.
I say I'm a Southerner in spirit, but I'm not presumptuous enough to pretend I can really understand the way you do. I'm sure many from the former CSA don't give it a second thought. I know for a fact that many do.
I don't care much for the official version. Help me learn your story, if you would.
Hrmm...
Well first, a recap of my background.
I was born in Dixie, grew up in the mountain south, and at least from a heritage standpoint self-identify as Southern Appalachian. My father, while never a reenactor or professional historian, was a Civil War nut as a boy and we all got a lot of stories growing up. I remember on my high school exam writing out the lyrics to both the CSA and USA versions of "Battle Cry of Freedom" on the back, burned into my memory from the Johnny Horton tapes he often played in the car.
The past was always pretty close you might say.
So that's that.

Second, let's get the obvious off the table.
Among the dead, there are plenty of Cherokee moms and African dads with their own bones to pick from the other side of the table. I'll not deny them their dignity by saying they weren't done wrong. They were. So were the people their ancestors whooped on in their time. Plenty of evil in this ol' world to go around.
So those we hurt have their stories, but I don't think they're mine to tell. So I'll leave those tales with those to a right to them, and speak to what I've been given.
Now. So.
What's it like growing up Southern a century and change after the Late Unpleasantness?
First, the brutal part of it. When and where I grew up, the following sentiment a previous poster left was not uncommon, though I don't think I'd go so far as to say it really haunted daily life for most people. -
And here's what's sadly ironic.
My ancestors, the poor whites of the mountain South, mostly favored the Union and fought for the Union during The Civil War in large numbers.
There was no reason for my ancestors to fight and die to preserve an aristocratic class of landed gentry that kept my people poor by using slaves instead of hiring employees.
Hell, some of my ancestors freakin' created West Virginia when they seceded from Virginia after Virginia seceded from the Union.
But you arrogant, ignorant Damn Yankees are so damn arrogant and ignorant and smugly superior that not many groups of Southerners hate you all more than those of us in the mountain South, whose ancestors probably favored the Union back then.
150 years of oppression and hate and derision aimed at us will cause that, you know?
Anon, 7:59PM
I'd be lying if I didn't say my uncensored gut reaction on a bad day isn't fair similar, even if I try to be all polite and remember that whole "do unto others" thing.
There's folk from north of the Mason-Dixon I truly like to no end, but to my mind, "Yankee" still carries the connotation of "smug bastard just aching to beat you to death with the beam in his eye for the sake of his perfect world, then count himself righteous for doing it."
I don't like the sight of Yankee blue.
HOWEVER
It is for the dead to bury the dead.
There is not a Yankee alive that killed a kinsman of mine, or burned a Southern farm, or starved out a Southern family. It is finished, it is done, and all have gone to their rest.So yeah, I might still keep a momento or two about the house. I'll definitely smile and wave at the proud old gentleman riding by in gray and gold, and seeing an underfed teenage kid in butternut clutching an old Enfield just about melts my heart. Heck, I'll even sing "Good ol' Rebel" now and again, bitter and dire as it is.
The history of my old homeland is important to me because it's a part of me - it's one little thread of that great tapestry, that piece that l was entrusted with. And it's a pretty rich one to have. I like it. I treasure it.
But if I'm not allowed to bear a grudge against the living, I sure ain't gonna bear one against the dead. There's more than enough hatred in this world I don't need to be adding to it for the sake of wrongs done a century before I was born.
... well, at least till round two. ;)


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You write beautifully and eloquently, as always, with such a quick access to what's on your heart ... and I appreciate very much where you're coming from. It is time to let go of that conflict; we should rather be focusing on the here and now.
There's plenty of opportunity for discord in the modern world.
Good points, and a good perspective. Thanks!
AP
Born and raised a "Yankee" - with "the bug" - up North of a Canadian mother and a good 'ol mountain boy from Kentucky (near the border with West Virginia)...who was one of the poor white trash you speak of.
My direct ancestor fought for the Union...although family records seem to indicate it was more local than any feelings of "Union" or "United" States - he was with the Kentucky Mounted Infantry and stayed in Kentucky. Mostly chasing Morgan I imagine.
Who knows, maybe it was just the spirit of the times and you followed what your peers did. I believe he was born in 1842 making him 18-20 or so. Isn't this what 18-year-olds do now?
Others of that generation in the family split sides...and I have reason to suspect some fell to the urge to Go West - as I did when I reached the age.
I'm now a westerner at heart but currently live between Hampton Roads and Richmond. My backyard is more or less on the site of the first land battle of the war (not Manassas). And although I don't consider myself a Southerner, I am disappointed at the political correctness this state seems to show - at least officially.
I get the sense of an official "We didn't really mean to secede, we were forced into it by wrong-headed politicians."
Get a collective pair. Own up to your history. Good or bad, right or wrong, it did happen here and Virginia was in the thick of it. I don't think Montgomery forced Virginia into making Richmond the capital.
Making this an even longer comment, did West Virginia set a precedence in seceding from the secessionists? What is/was the legal status of WV?
Since I believe Lincoln didn't recognize the secession as a legal action, does this mean that sections of existing states can secede from that state if they choose to remain in the Union?
Just a stray thought...
I'm a Southerner, and I'm glad.
For decades our public schools have lied to students about the cause of the War of Northern Aggression.
Check out the New York Times editorial of March 30, 1861, explaining the rationale for invading the South.
Hint: it wasn't about slavery.
Mariner - this one?
What Virginia Will Do
Regretfully, I must respectfully disagree.. at least partially. Certainly there were other huge issues - the tariff strongest among them. Add to that growing antipathies and just fundamentally different economies and ideas of what good governance meant.
But slavery had been the elephant in the living room for decades. As much as I'd like to say we had clean hands... we didn't.
Lord help us, we didn't.
And if not the reason the first shot was fired, I still think it's safe to say it's one of the biggest reasons we lost... mostly the loss of international support from UK or France as world opinion moved away from the Peculiar Institution, but I also daresay the front could have used all the homeguard bodies keeping an eye on the slave population to prevent uprisings in the rear.
Ultimately Deo did not, as my father says, Vindice.
I believe there was a reason He did not.
But I still love my homeland. Just as I still passionately love my country today, despite our sins and our divisions.
There is no perfection this side of eternity.
Beautifully written.
I'm a lifelong Minnesotan, but a descendant of (slave-owning, aristocratic) Tennessee Confederates. My reenactment group proudly re-creates the First Minnesota Infantry, one of the finest units in the Army of the Potomac, from a very young state which gave disproportionally of its meager population to the Union cause. Yet I believe that Lincoln and the North were deeply, deeply wrong in forcing the South back into the Union, and I understand fully what my g'g'g'grandfather meant when he told his wife that if he should not return, she should keep the spirit of rebellion burning in his son, "lest the yoke of Yankee oppression become by long wearing easy to be borne." I am one of (at last count) 8 members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans in Minnesota, and have no direct Union soldier ancestors. (Out here, BTW, we're Westerners - Yankees come from New England.)
I have wept at Gettysburg at the monument where those brave Minnesotans were destroyed to hold a gap in Meade's line, and stood at their position in the ragged Union line at Manassas. I have wept in the woods at Chickamauga at an obscure regimental marker near where my ancestor was wounded, and stood on the ground he described at Murfreesboro and where he fought at Perryville.
I served in the US Marine Corps Reserve in my youth. A disproportionate number of the men I knew in basic were southerners, despite their experiences with "Yankees." I've read the accounts of former slaves who traveled to Montana to visit my g'g'grandmother, their former mistress, four decades after the War. I have a Missouri ancestor whose father was shot down by the Jayhawk guerrillas on the family front porch with his son by his side.
All of this, I think, means that I am an American. We are a peculiar people.
"Do I contradict myself? Very well then, I contradict myself. (I am large; I contain multitudes.)" --Walt Whitman
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